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Society for Quality Education

TDSB To Create Choice

March 27, 2010 by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) at 06:38 AM

The Toronto District School Board is looking to create schools of choice.  The proposal, released yesterday, will see alternative schools modeled on private academies, such as a choir school, sports school, same sex schools, etc.  The new schools will be located in high-needs areas of the city.  See news reports here, here, and here.  This is very good news.

“The board’s hope is that by introducing these kinds of programs, it will be able to boost enrolment and attract students that might otherwise go to the private system.  ‘It’s about retaining and attracting students,’ said Dr. Spence.”  Bravo Dr. Spence!  You get it.

Dare we say that SQE played a big part in getting that ball rolling?  It only took four years.

Readers should know that in April 2006, SQE sponsored the Toronto leg of former Edmonton school director Angus McBeath’s speaking tour.  We called it:

“SAVING OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS: When cash-strapped school boards are losing students and budget deficits loom, can Ontario learn from Edmonton’s success in turning things around?”

McBeath was responsible for implementing Edmonton’s now famous and much copied system-wide reform, which came about as a direct result of trying to deal with declining enrolment and competition from charters and private schools.  McBeath asked, “What if we stopped acting like a monopoly?”,  and the rest is history.  SQE arranged for McBeath to meet with the board here in Toronto at that time. 

Naturally, the usual critics of choice have their say along with the usual hypocrisy.  In fact, one parent group leader has taken the words right out of Dr. Howard Fuller’s mouth.  (She must have read our March 22nd post.)  Ms. Kidder is quoted in the National Post:

“Choice is open to those with the capacity to choose.”  

And choose she did.

Now doesn’t that sound strangely similar to Dr. Fuller’s own words below?

“Those of us with money have the capacity to choose and the great hypocrisy that operates are those individuals who would never put their own children in certain schools denying poor parents the capacity to do it. We have teachers who teach in schools they would never put their own children in, demanding that other peoples’ children stay there. I find that to be hypocritical. We’ve got politicians running around talking about how important the public school structure is and then you ask them, ‘Well, where do your children go to school?’”  —From his January 2008 address to the Economic Club of Toronto where several TDSB trustees were in attendance.

Kidder is also quoted,  “What happens to the neighbourhood schools?”  Well, Annie, they get better.

Comments

“What happens to the neighbourhood schools?”
You mean the ones you didn’t choose for your own children Ms. Kidder?
That this is excellent news for parents with kids in the TDSB, why would Kidder oppose it if her organization supports parents?
Congrats to both SQE and the TDSB for moving on offering more choice within the system and actually responding to the will of parents instead of the usual suspects!
I find Mr. Kidder’s comments more in tune with Doug Little’s comments here - ones of fear and loathing rather than daring to open minds.

Posted by notasheep on 03/27 at 08:24 AM

Goes to show you, that the Dougs and Kidders of the world, that choice is staying.

“The move to an almost boutique option for learning, wildly popular in Edmonton, Chicago and New York, has been kick-started in Toronto by new director of education Chris Spence, who started a sports academy and two all-boy programs in Hamilton, where he was director until last July.”

This is just a beginning, where the doors can be open for other choices and alternatives that the Dougs and Kidders will denied to the majority, well the relative few enjoy choice and alternatives to the public education system.

Posted by Nancy on 03/27 at 08:57 AM

P4E supports the status quo, albeit at a level of funding where the status quo will never have to make difficult choices. 

I suspect they’re too beholden to their “partners” to ever be in favour of significant change in how things would/could be done.

Their claim to be supportive of kids is all in context of not ruffling too many feathers in the current situation.

Posted by John L on 03/27 at 09:03 AM

I don’t oppose choice in principle WITHIN the public system. I think their choices could be a little ill advised because these choices tend to polarize the ses situation but if they prevent kids going private that is also good. I object on a different level to the separation of genders in the same way I object to separation of races. School needs to reflect the real life community as much as possible.

Posted by Doug on 03/27 at 02:47 PM

I am a little concerned about gay children being segregated in separate schools.  Kids today are remarkably tolerant of homosexuality—much more so than when I was growing up.  Younger Canadians were far more accepting of same-sex marriage, for example, than their parents.

What sympathy will straight children have for their gay peers if they never get a chance to become friends because they move in physically separate worlds?  It seems to me to be a much better idea to work on giving gay children the supports they need to stay in community with their straight peers.

Segregating kids from those who are intrinsically different from them (race, religion, sexual orientation) doesn’t seem wise to me.  It may help a kid deal with some alienation in the short term, but long term it will further isolate these kids and I think increase intolerance towards homosexuals.

Posted by Leonard on 03/28 at 05:34 AM

Choice within the public system we could have right now!

... that would stop the current unfairness where the the money you have to pay for your house determines which schools you have access to.

What we could have today - inside the public system - is to open up all the high school programs based on merit rather than on money.

Allow each student and parents to choose which high school and which program to attend.

More students than places at a given high school program?
Let the high school set up a transparent test or examination to choose the best applicants.

This can be done today and will have the following beneficial effects:

a) It would stop the unfairness in the current system where school choice is based on money

b) It would set goals for the students in elementary and middle school to work towards, thus increasing striving and therefore achievement.
It would also give feedback to teachers in elementary and middle schools as to how well they are teaching.

c) It would establish merit and hard work as a basis for selection thus inforcing good values in our children.

What do you think?

Posted by fromEurope on 03/29 at 08:45 AM

It’ll be interesting to see how this evolves.  It is just going to be smoke and mirrors?  Parents want quality.  Will these schools actually deliver, or will they try to continue with the status quo?
I think the latter—at least till they realize that they need to offer good substance or the exodus will continue…

Posted by Bev on 03/29 at 01:32 PM

What exodus? This is declining enrolement not a shift to private going on.

Posted by Doug on 03/29 at 08:03 PM

Lets count at our old school (that I know of)... North Hope Central Public school our 2 have left for home school, I know of one family that moved to a better district, 4 have gone to the catholic school, 2 French immersion and 2 have gone to Trinity College.

And I believe one of Trinity College’s new students was a teachers kid…but she was “special”

Out of a school of 120

Posted by Mark H. on 03/30 at 12:44 PM

See how good of at spelling I am !
College.

But I have my grade 12….and still can do a better job with the right tools.

Posted by Mark H. on 03/30 at 01:00 PM
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