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Comparing apples to oranges

January 24, 2012 by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) at 06:38 AM

Nearing the end of my Florida tour, I bring you this report from Ocala. The governor has just released a report ranking the state’s 67 school districts on the basis of their performance on the state tests. In Ocala, which ranked 44th, the usual suspects are criticizing the rankings - saying it’s not fair to compare districts with different socioeconomic makeups and adding that the unfair comparison is disheartening to those with low rankings.

This may come as a surprise to some, but this time I agree with the usual suspects. Of course, this doesn’t mean that I would totally junk the rankings - just make them fair. The basis of comparison should be the value added by school districts - for example, Tennessee’s Value-Added Assessment model

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What non-educators often just don’t get is that schools with low scores begin to go further down hill the day the rankings come out. The high achieving families leave but the remaining families demand that the school stay open sincce it is a neighbourhood school.

The whole premise of ranking is based on the idea that the school is at fault rather than the class system.

Posted by Doug on 01/24 at 10:17 AM

Much fairer for all.

“Value-added looks at the individual child over time to see whether he or she is moving forward. It works no matter where the student starts the year - on grade, below grade, or above grade level. And because demographic and socio-economic factors remain largely the same over time, value-added is fair regardless of a child’s background. This is extremely important, since it means that schools and educators will be treated fairly regardless of the students they serve.

Value-added is a complex statistical system but the idea behind it is quite simple. In concept, value-added uses all of a student’s prior test scores to create a projected score for the student in her current grade, and then compares that score to her actual score. If the two scores are similar, we can say that she has achieved one year’s worth of growth over the course of that year relative to the rest of the students in the state.”
http://www.cgp.upenn.edu/ope_new_system.html

The emphasis than becomes the education practices of the school. I suspect it would bring about timely intervention for students, instead of passing the gaps in knowledge to the next set of teachers in the higher grades. As well as decreasing the number of students being socially promoted to the next grade.

Posted by Nancy on 01/24 at 10:35 AM

Educators get it too folks. Doug speaks only for himself.
What parents get is the excuses they will not longer accept that comes from some educators as to who they feel is entitled to an education based on a “class system”.

Very sad indeed.

Posted by Dan Sing on 01/24 at 12:55 PM

Google the “Value Added System” Daniel Willington has a looong proof that it is worthless.

Same teachers come out wildly different in different years.

The whole merit pay mentality is discredited by the Vanderbilt study.

Posted by Doug on 01/24 at 03:11 PM

A paper on the Tennessee Value-added Assessment model.

“Conclusion

While no assessment system is without limitations, Tennessee’s value-added assessment model stands head and shoulders above others with regard to its focus on the effectiveness of schools, its ability to remove the biasing effects of social and economic influences, and its usefulness in answering critical questions about student progress and educational quality. It has been validated by independent reviewers and proven to be a useful tool for policymakers. Today, TVAAS is a model for several states (Ohio, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina are adopting similar systems) and is under consideration as a national model by the U.S. Department of Education. As the availability of value-added data increases, the Education Consumers Foundation will expand its efforts to increase the public visibility of demonstrably effective schools. “


http://www.education-consumers.org/tnproject/abouttvaas.htm

From what I could determined quickly, the Tennessee model is touted as the best, to determine education accountability, on all sides including the political. It is fair.

Posted by Nancy on 01/24 at 04:38 PM

Here’s what Doug is presumably referring to. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/daniel-willingham/willingham-the-huge-problem-wi.html

Dr. Willingham in fact endorses school-based value added assessments. Here is the relevant passage.

“Value added models work well when you’re trying to evaluate a school. They work much less well when you’re trying to evaluate an individual class.”

Posted by Malkin Dare on 01/24 at 07:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uONqxysWEk8

Posted by Doug on 01/25 at 08:23 AM

Yes, Doug, Dr. Willingham says that value-added assessment doesn’t work well when it comes to comparing teachers. He also says that value-added assessment does work well when it comes to comparing schools and, by extension, school districts - which is what I was talking about in my original post. You are shooting at a target that I never put up.

Posted by Malkin Dare on 01/25 at 08:54 AM
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